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"All artists need to have an online presence," I said.

"Easy for you to say, Popular Artist
," they said.

"I had to work hard to get 'popular'," I said

"But it's SOOO hhaaaaAAARD," they said

"That's what I just said," I said.


    After making my status posts about making an online presence, I figured I'd make a sort of guide. I made a very generic list of things you should do as an artist who wants to get their name out there or "get popular". A lot of people were like, "but I've done all of that". But chances are, you haven't. There's a lot that goes into this and it takes a long ass time. Don't think it's just gonna happen in a month.
    So I made a guide based on my own experience and what worked for me (as an illustrator/artist. Some of these tips are more specific than others and some of these will not necessarily work for you. Everyone's different. Keep in mind this is mostly for illustrators/animators/story artists etc. This won't work for accounts that are just people here as viewers or fan blogs. 

    Okay, here we go. 

  • Have a good profile picture (and username)
    • Profiles by kilalaaa
    • These are some profile pictures that I personally am inclined to press
    • So, understand your audience and what kind of people you want to attract. My ultimate goal is to have other story artists and and illustrators follow me which is why my profile picture on everywhere else other than dA is a simple picture of me, in grayscale (since story artists work in grayscale) with a little splash of color for aesthetic purposes and a way to add my own personality.
    • Keep your profile picture consistent across all platforms. It is your brand. If someone's on instagram and they follow you, then they see your profile picture on tumblr (that same one on your instagram) they'll be more likely to follow you there too.
    • Don't keep changing your profile picture. And if you do, don't change it often or at least keep it kinda similar to what you had it as before.
    • Avoid using pictures that aren't your art (screenshots, art from other people, etc.)
    • Your profile picture is your identity. It should reflect you, your art style, what you're about, who you are as a person, all in one simple picture. Really put thought into it. My profile picture here is my goatsona screaming. It shows my current drawing style, it shows that I draw pony/mlp related things, it shows that I probably like goats and it shows that my content will for the most part be lighthearted and silly
    • Usernames are also important. Keep them short, easy to say and remember, at least easy to recognize avoid numbers if you can and avoid fandom names (mylittleponyluvr123)
      • Numbers, particularly when they're random, make it hard for the audience to remember and retype in a url if they wanna look you up again
      • I made this mistake here but avoided doing so on my other social media platforms
      • Also, if you're trying to be professional, try get your real name in the user name if you can (mine is kianamaiart which is my first name, middle name and "art")
  • If you have the time and energy, don't be afraid to take requests (not permanently)
    • This is how I started on deviantART. Just taking little one character requests of ponies (I knew I wanted this account to be for MLP stuff from the beginning). Doing these little requests allowed me to practice drawing what I wanted to draw for this account, I got instant follows from those who requested art from me, I built a relationship with those people in the fandom and when they posted the artwork on their pages, it was free advertising for me
    • I'd like to note that requests are a good idea if you're young and have time. If you're older, have school, work and other things to worry about like money, then I wouldn't do requests (unless you are 100% willing to)
  • Create for fandoms
    • Unfortunately original art will hardly get noticed unless you're a REALLY freaking good artist, for several reasons
      • It's not really something you can look up in tags
      • You're creating a world and characters from scratch. Doing this from the beginning makes it hard for a lot of viewers to get invested
      • People have a tendency to look at things that are familiar and they'll stop and look if it is
    • Creating for fandoms allows you to use the tags associated with them and there's already a fanbase with people looking for stuff related to that fandom
  • Find a niche
    • Don't do something that's popular already. 
    • After MLP Next Gen stuff was getting popular already, even moooore people started making their own. And that's cool and all if you're doing it for fun, but once it's popular already, it becomes oversaturated and people are already settled in following select artists doing that thing.
    • So, try find something that hasn't been done a lot. Since we're talking fandoms, AUs are typically the best way to go. You get to use characters that already exist but in a different way. Make and build an AU that no one's seen before
  • Create stories
    • Drawing is great and all but telling stories is what keeps people around. It's the reason we don't typically go somewhere to stare at a single painting for two hours but will go to a movie and stay for the whole thing (if it's at least decent)
    • Stories hook people and so do good characters 
  • Don't change things too much (especially at the beginning)
    • People prefer things that are familiar and consistent. If you're constantly retconning things or changing things up, the audience won't get attached knowing very well that you're probably gonna change things up the next week. This is why I've only retconned one thing, and slightly tweaked my characters once in my whole 3 years of being on dA
    • There were plenty times I wanted to change things/characters, but if you run with it long enough, you find yourself getting attached too
  • TAG THINGS TAG THINGS TAG THINGS
    • TAG THINGS AND TAG THEM CORRECTLY
    • Tag a lot of things and in every way possible
    • Understand what's relevant and use those
    • Understand how the website's tagging system works
      • dA allows for all tags to be looked up but sites like tumblr only allow the first five to be used publicly (the rest is just so people can find it on your blog specifically)
  • Have different blogs on different sites
    • Depending on what your goal is, making several different blogs is a good idea. 
    • If you're trying to get a job, then BE. ON. EVERYTHING. 
    • If you just wanna be popular in one place, still be everywhere so you can link back to the place where you wanna be popular. 
    • If you wanna do fan stuff a lot but also wanna have a professional account, make separate blogs for those. This is why I have a dA for pony stuff, a tumblr for Pokémon stuff, a different tumblr/facebook for my more professional work. Then I have an instagram and twitter for professional stuff as well with more personal stuff sprinkled throughout unlike my tumblr
    • On these separate blogs, advertise your other ones every once in a while in case people might be interested in seeing what else you do or if they use one platform more than the other, they can use the one they prefer 
    • It's also important to understand which platforms are best for what
  • Invest in good materials/materials that you can use well.
    • There's not much to say about this one. If you've only got MS paint, then maybe try investing in better programs
      • However, money is absolutely an obstacle. And if you can't afford anything else, then really, REALLY make the best of what you have and do your best to improve in that skill
      • I will say though, that if you plan on being an artist professionally, there is no escaping photoshop. Every job I've ever seen in my field has PS as a basic requirement/skill
  • Get involved in groups
    • Find groups, find lots of them
    • Find ones that are big, find ones that are a little more small and intimate
    • I tend to find ones that are in between. Groups with members in the hundreds. It's big enough to give your art exposure, and small enough to ensure your art doesn't get drowned out by everyone else's 
  • Don't be afraid to comment
    • Talk to people. Talk to other artists. Learn from them. Befriend them
      • DON'T EVER go up to artists and ask "can we be friends?". It's a nice gesture, but as someone who gets these comments a lot, I can tell you that they definitely make me uncomfortable. Friendships happen over time and through interactions. If some stranger you've never met walked up to you and was like, "hey, i've been watching u for a while. wanna be friends?" would you reaaaaally wanna be friends with them? You don't know them, you don't know what they want from you, you don't know if they want to take advantage of you, etc.
      • All my friends that I've made online have happened naturally and over time through sharing art and a mutual admiration
    • So yeah, don't be afraid to comment, but definitely don't go commenting creepy stuff haha.  Also don't blatantly advertise yourself, it's just common courtesy. Just be nice and understand that they might not always reply
    • Commenting gives you exposure as well whether it's from the creator or other people in the comments (this is where your profile picture comes into play)
  • Follow other artists
    • Follow people!
    • I'm not sure how relevant this is on dA, but on tumblr, twitter and instagram it's EVERYTHING. 
    • You following them already shows that you've possibly got something in common with them (or at least a common interest)
  • Post daily (or at least a lot)
    • If you're not posting then clearly you're not gonna get constant exposure
    • The internet's a fast paced place and you need to stay relevant to keep up
  • Don't be stingy about reposts
    • I know artists don't typically like reposts, but when you're starting out, it definitely helps with exposure. A lot of my followers came from websites I'm not on like derpibooru, reddit, pintrest (and earlier on, tumblr). Solely from reposting. 
  • Don't be afraid to favorite/like things
    • Similarly for following artists, favoriting/liking things gives you exposure to the person you're favoriting things from
    • It also shows your interests aside from what you're posting
  • Figure out when your audience is online and understand how the website works (then develop a schedule)
    • Ever noticed how famous YouTubers have a schedule? They've strategically figured out what times are best for posting, what times get them the most views, and have a schedule that helps their subscribers know exactly when to look for a new video
    • It's the same thing for art and social media. I've found that the time you post varies from person to person (for me it's either at like 4am-6am or 12pm-3pm)
    • Because I was posting everyday, everyone knew to look for my work everyday (and also why there would be a freaking riot when two days passed and I didn't post anything). Clearly I don't do that here anymore since I'm focusing on my twitter/tumblr/instagram so it's normal haha 
  • Be nice and make friends
    • BE NICE TO PEOPLE
    • Even if there are people who disagree with you, or people who make you upset, try your best to not blow up on them. All comments you make reflect your character and a bad personality can be a deal breaker for a lot of people
  • Try to keep your personal life out of your art blog
    • I know a lot of people find comfort in online friends but on an art blog, talking about and delving into your personal life tooooo much can sometimes drive people away
    • So, as an alternative, you can talk to your close online friends privately, create a blog separate from that one where you can post personal stuff and vent (twitter's good for that haha) and allow people to follow that. This will filter out the people who are just there for the art and allow the people who are genuinely invested in what you have to say and will be there for you if you need them.
    • Just venting on dA can be detrimental to you since you will absolutely get those people who don't care and will tell you to not talk about yourself to your face, people who will only make you feel worse, people who will give you false advice, etc. So, take care of yourself and find those people who you can go to if need be. 
  • Take the time to know and understand your audience
    • Make polls, create journals and just ask what people want to see
    • Listen to your audience
    • Even if you're not able to carry out all their ideas, then reading their comments will at least give you a general idea of what type of stories or content they like to see
  • TAKE CRITICISM
    • Easily, the biggest turn off for me when I see another artist is when they get overly defensive when someone gives them any sort of criticism
      • "This part looks a little funny, maybe you could–"
        • Bad way to reply: "NOPE. That's just my style"
        • Good way to reply: "Oh I see what you mean. How would you suggest I improve it?" or "Hm, I don't think I understand what you mean. Could you expand on that maybe or suggest how I could make it better?"
      • "This character kinda looks like this other person's character."
        • Bad way to reply: "UM NO. THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. BLOCKED"
        • Good way to reply: "Oh yeah I kinda see it. Do you think I should change it more?" 
    • Just hear people out. Shying away from criticism is the worst thing you could do to yourself as an artist
  • Be lucky
    • You really just gotta be lucky sometimes
    • I jumped into the fandom at its peak and was also expanding on a concept that, while done before, wasn't done a whole lot for that particular fandom
  • Be good at drawing
    • The hardest thing on this list. Imma be real. You gotta be good at drawing. That's what hooks people. You might have stories and do a lot of the things on this list, but if you're not skilled at drawing, all these other steps can only take you so far.
    • Find a style that stands out but also is aesthetically what people are looking for
    • I noticed on tumblr and just in cartoons in general, the western animation style with a hint of anime is what's "in" right now. 
    • And a lot of the time, if you're a technically awesome artist, you don't even need to do anything else above. So this carries a lot of weight 
    • Just keep improving! Never stop learning new things!
So there you have have it. A pretty general list of how to get your work out there. It's a lot, but it's pretty necessary I feel. Good luck everyone :D
  • Listening to: Nijikan Dake no Vacance by Utada
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Darkenlite Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
I will "argue" little on requests.  Years ago I had no problem taking requests.  I enjoy doing things for others but sadly it got to be that was all I did and didn't have time to do my own thing (before work took over my life) so I learned to say "no", politely of course by just saying I'm really seriously busy.  
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Darkenlite Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
I agree with many things you said here like fandom vs original characters and tons of other things.  

I got to ask this but do you feel that people do more faving than commenting, and/or that there seems to be less comments in general.  When I first joined here there seemed to be tons of comments and activity. Now. . .  not sure.  I will admit I have not posted art like I use to due to real life work and all but I've heard from others that echo the same. 
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resMENSA Featured By Owner Edited Apr 11, 2017   General Artist
my dear friend...
hopefully NOT "just for..." those with The Light ON, already.
but ESPECIALLY for "viewers" & "fans"     --------->   LISTEN TO DISTURBED


actually, this is a HowTo (create avatar) here !!

to recommend usage for sub-case
"illustrators/animators/story artists etc" - ONLY!
well, isn´t that a little cruel?
---> just TREMENDOUSLY cruel IMO

to deliver a good sample, then hide it?
you have a such massively CRUEL approach to topic - 
I have a lack of words for that...


How shall I KNOW beforehand, if I belong to the "wished" group...
I have to read requirements list (essay) FIRST !!
it´s just awful - to get de-moralized first, then main essay starts..
PLEASE change your PROLOGUE!!
"rest" is just DEAD ON for beginners !!
to just EXCLUDE those with the most need for that...



-----> Did You NEVER wonder where this cruelty within - stems from?
in Disturbed Song-Title (latest CD) : Who taught you how to hate?


Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull Skull 

pls... for your own sake - BE PROUD !! LIKE HELL !! 
it´s NOT needed to be gay for being proud.


LGBTs get told, that we have NO RIGHT TO BE PROUD - just 24/7 !!
That´s why it is such a HUGE thing for community...



PRIDE ?



Tard Sheemote Red Sheep icon Brown Sheep Icon Purple Sheep Icon Grey Sheep Icon Blue Sheep Icon Green Sheep Icon Orange Sheep Icon Yellow Sheep Icon 


and ppl. call ME "insane"... and worse.
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roco340 Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2017
Wow thanks man, i just started posting my work yesterday, this will help me alot.
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StrangeStickmanStuff Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you for writing this! I usually upload twice a week, but i'll try to make more fanart... especially of other deviants.
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FeralFox13 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I have learnt so much
But now lack one thing aka the most vital
The last -^-"
So I resorted to stories now
Maybe you could do one in the more literature of things?
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Miko-The-Fox Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I never even tried, I just somehow became popular on a site called Scratch. .-. Welp, ok then XD
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aleksandraunger Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2017  Professional General Artist
Its nice to see a realistic approach on the subject. Spot on. 
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ryllcat21 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2017  Student Digital Artist
these are rlly helpful!! thank you sm for these advice!!
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auroraashes Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist
Thanks for such the helpful advice! Honestly, I struggle so much with art. I've been drawing for so long (( ever since I was 7 and now I'm 15) yet my art seems to look like nothing but horrible crap. Sometimes these guidelines are hard to follow (especially the "you gotta be good at art" part) because I want to be good, and I'm trying really really hard to be good. But I just feel like I never make any improvement and that I'll never ever get to the place I want to get too
It sometimes seems so hard to reach and that I'll never get there.
but good artists like you give me help and the reason to keep going, even if I've been drawing for so long and my art STILL looks hopeless. 
...but anyways thanks for the advice and I REALLY appreciate it. 
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tellusasecretrhyme Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2017
Thanks for taking the time to share your 'Tips n' Tricks' !
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Ghaellen Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I'll follow these advices, thank you!
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RainbowYoshi305 Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Such great advice!:squee: i'll be sure to follow it along!:D
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Ariaannaa Featured By Owner Edited Feb 9, 2017
Amazing piece of advice! Thank you for sharing :)
May I ask what was the mistake you mentioned with your nickname? You were talking about not putting numbers in, but you don't have any there, so a question arises whether you have changed it, or meant something totally different?
Also, an interesting observation is that, while I believe good profile picture is important just about as much as you do, I usually wouldn't go to check out a profile with a similar picture to these from your example. I tend to visit more profiles with colorful cartoon, or fantasy characters set as their icons. To each their own I guess :D
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Sehad Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Doing lot's of this, but a really well put "tutorial/guide" thing~
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madilynbeau Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pretty darn sound advice! Thank you for sharing! 
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DokiDokiTsuna Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
This is the first "how to be popular" list I've read that's actually...useful and relevant! I don't really need this advice anymore (thankfully), but I'm gonna fave it anyway~
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MissingNo888 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017  Student Artist
Yeah, I also found this super-helpful to me!!!
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Magic-Rhyno-Creative Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2017
This is actually really good info.
Well done!
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DawnsyBebo Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for this! So in detail and I appreciate it!
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Waterdrain Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Student Filmographer
Thank you for posting this!;u; This is extremely nice to read about because I struggle with online presence a lot. 
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vente3141 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Hnm...It's interesting and quite helpful. I might following your advice, change the profile picture and leave a comment here XD, lol. Thank you for this! Btw, Imho, participating in contests and social projects are also some good ways to get exposure, too.
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eternalsailorchaos Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
As much as I agree with most of the points here, I've gotta say that not everything in here is something I'd follow. I feel like my need to keep true to what I want to do lays above the need for popularity, and mainly the community-involving things you've cited, like joining groups and being on as many websites as possible, has been stuff I've tried before, with my old account, and it eventually led me to burn out. Social interaction, even online, can get very tolling on me, mainly if done for prolonged periods of time. I eventually decided to drop everything, and didn't even have a dA for a while, and returned under this username because I didn't want to be part of the groups I was before. I didn't want to be linked to everything I had done before, I didn't want to answer people all of the time, or get flooded with comments and deviations and everything from everyone. I eventually figured that all I want to do is draw, and, okay, share it with some few friends, and some random people, but not at the level of exposure I was at before. I don't think I'd even want to pursue a career on art, I just want to remain a hobbyist. So... Yeah, great guide, but just not my cup of tea.
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kilalaaa Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Student Filmographer
This is primarily for people who need exposure and want to get jobs in the animation/illustration field. Getting your work out there is crucial and a lot of companies hire artists through tumblr/twitter nowadays and having a following gives you an edge over your competitors. You also need a good following since it's common for animators to do freelance work and having a big following means more opportunities for filled commission slots.

So being true to yourself is good, but you can do so while doing all this stuff if you do it correctly and sometimes you have to try alternative methods.
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eternalsailorchaos Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I see.
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Honestly, I agree. I want to start a gaming channel, and inspire younger folks and cause change within the community of that game.
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eternalsailorchaos Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
That's very nice, it sounds like a very ambitious goal, I hope you can get there some day.
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Cellii Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2017  Student General Artist
I think I'm the opposite of most people, I don't mind being away from limelight. Having a smaller gathering of an audience allows for there to be less pressure of posting something everyday. When in real life art is something fun...that also takes time. I wont get into fandom art for the pure sake of attention, I'd rather draw something I whole heatedly love. I would take into consideration the story portrayal of characters though, that's one of my favorite thing from other DA, instagram, or tumblr artists. 

It's beautiful to see characters in settings no matter if it's a picture, comic, animation. 
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kilalaaa Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Student Filmographer
That's fine. If that's the case then this journal is not for you. It's for those who do want a following and for those who intend to get in the animation/illustration field where having an online presence is crucial.
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
True story 
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hydella353 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for this. I still have absolutely no presence online, and it's hard. It makes me sad and uninspired, but I will try my best.
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IraeCoal Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2017  Professional General Artist
Thanks so much for posting this. It never hurts to learn more even if we feel we have it all figured out or that we should be better/smarter/faster in relation to our place in life, everyone has something they can still learn. Hearing the directors of Moana say how they were nervous about going into the 3D aspect of the movie shows that even those who do have jobs and you may think have it all figured out, still have things to learn. I'm working to try and get more posted, like Lop said awhile back also taking the time to not give my art time to just web surfing. These tips will help me and I will definitely come back to re-read as time goes on.
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Didn't know that... :0
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IraeCoal Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Professional General Artist
Yeah, its from the 107 facts about Moana video on Youtube. It's from ChannelFrederator :).
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PinixTheRaoGuard Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2017
Mmm... Interesting, even if I don't want to be popular or something like that. Art is just an hobby for me.
But I think I am a rather bad people at comments. I get blocked one time today and I know I've been rude.

Be good at art? Don't look at my gallery, you will die.
Also, I think my icon represents well myself: a lazy animator.

I think I totally take criticism even if I never had a critique (that's sad, my art looks so bad than people didn't want to tell me advices I think XD). Proof? I critique myself.

Have a good day!
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Angry-Topapo Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2017  Student Digital Artist
This was really helpful~ Thanks for this c:

Though I still really have to work on my art! Still have a LOT to work on, improve & practice just to get that
attractive feel to it as well as my comfortable style.
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Bomberhead67 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2017
Practically all of these are things I already knew, but never follow...
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Tree-ink Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
I'll change my profile picture lol
me And my jokes.
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SuperAnaGamer Featured By Owner Edited Jan 31, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Emmm..... welp.... i'm commenting right now.... am I doing it right?
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DigitalMindtheatre Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I do most of those things, but not the last one. I'm a horrible artist, but I'm only 13. Great job writing this anyway!
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the-little-seagull Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No thank you
I rather be myself
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Crazypony56 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
SHould I make a new account or just leave my name how it is?
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XxBluepeltxX Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017
My only problem with the criticism is that people take advantage of it and are very obnoxious.
Especially when some artists tell you not to do it, then you go and do it anyway.
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kilalaaa Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017  Student Filmographer
As an artist, you should always be open to criticism regardless of whether it's obnoxious or not. It's essential to improving.

Art is made to be criticized whether it's in a museum for formal critique, or on the pipeline for animation
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What are some tips to help "prepare" yourself for that kinda criticism? I'm looking forward to an animation company that's willing to accept my most of my ideas as much as possible (however, there will be inevitable sacrifice from time to time and I want to be okay with that).

I forgot what it's called (...something about how much the animation team controls their own work) but I want the ability to bring out that creativity without feeling absolutely awful about failing, or feeling that my ideas are being taken advantage of.

I currently struggle to take in the emotions of others way too much, I almost burst into tears depending on the way they scold me.

I know this sounds like I'm being a butt-hurt attention beggar but I'm not trying to be.

I just want be able to accept change in a more positive way, without feeling ashamed of myself every single time. I want to be able to collaborate with others efficiently. I want to share my ideas with the world. I want them to exchange their ideas with me. I want to become a better person.

How can I do that?
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kilalaaa Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2017  Student Filmographer
You really just need to get tough skin if you're gonna go into animation. It's rough and your work will always be criticized even if it's good. Your superiors will ultimately be in charge and already have an idea of what they want and it's your job to carry it out. If you can't carry out their vision, you'll have to change things and do it over. It's like this even in school for animation. My work's been called shitty by professors before and I've had to do projects over on several occasions. You have to keep in mind that your professors and the higher ups know what they're doing and have more experience and their critiques can only make you better.
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How would I be able to prepare myself? Would I be able to do So?

If they already have an idea, than how do they get it in the first place?
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kilalaaa Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2017  Student Filmographer
Just practice I guess? Take critique from friends and people here on dA. That's pretty much the purpose of a site like this. To share art with other artists who can critique your work. Never get defensive when people crit. That's all there is to it.

The writers and directors are the people that make the ideas. So you should go into writing AND art if you want to do this. And if you wanna be a director, you usually have to do several jobs within the animation pipline before getting promoted to that title. These jobs are harder to get than art jobs (which are already ridiculously hard)
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FelisLupus Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I owe you an apology for the way I took I took your advice. I'll try looking a bit more towards the way I would understand it. Not as a way be selfish or anything, but I haven't really got the chance to express my "self-dependence" (the way that a person forms their own thoughts about something, whatever it's called) very often.

Whenever I tried to share my interests, I was usually drowned out because I was too "different" from the people around me. All other girls in what was supposed to be a Christian youth group (about 4-5 in total) completely ignored me for several years.

They would not speak a single word to me, and one girl even got ticked off at me for trying to wave in her video. I understand if they want privacy and all, but they should at least try not to film me before posting it to YouTube if I can't even say "hello". At one point, the youth leader asked them to take me to the restroom since we were at a theme park, and they all told her no.

The only people that listened to what I had to say were the adults. Most of them are way older than me. You're probably going to say that I shouldn't see this as a concern since I will come across many of them during my life, especially when I enter into art school.

I have little to no problem with that, unless they are "outdated" when it comes to the modern day world. I understand that not everyone is going to know what Steven Universe is, or anything about the Animal Jam community. That will be okay with me.

What I mean is that they are usually stuck in the past, chained down by the tradition of their ancestors. Some of them are really great people. I really love how my CAD teacher gives us advice on how to act in the real world. About how to apply for a job and beyond. Hell, I even had an older lady teach art club my freshman year before a student had to take it over to keep it alive.

I'm not saying older people are bad. But when that's all you're ever around, it becomes very difficult to function at a level that's appropriate for your generation. Plus, it doesn't reflect what the world has to offer. Yes, there are probably art professors who prefer traditional media over digital media. I have nothing wrong with that.

However, it has been so much better since that student took over art club. While I do agree that we should sit down and have a lot more actual lessons instead of just drawing all the time, it became a world-changer for me. I was finally able to discuss things without completely insane for once. I'm sad to see her go. We were just getting started. Maybe that's something my other friend and I can change next year.

In case you're wondering, none of my friends know anything about the Animal Jam community. I'm pretty sure you don't know anything about it either. They have fandoms of their own, some of which I'm a part of, others which I am not. That will be okay. I like how they bring other things up besides the stuff that I'm into.

I'm beyond grateful that I got a chance to work on a mural for our high school. While there is only about 2-4 other people that are participating, it has given me a chance to collaborate with them and discuss what we think needs to be changed. (This wasn't a contest or anything, literally 90% of my school doesn't participate in almost any after school activites other than sports, and it makes me sad.)

I can't wait until I'm out of school to gain knowledge about these things. I need to learn about them now. So when it comes that time someone will order me to "sit down and draw that fucking tree", I will be ready to sit down and draw that fucking tree.

Thank you.
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XxBluepeltxX Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2017
Though I don't really care for popularity
I just flow with deviantart and stay in my shadow
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